Dear Visitor, if you wish to contact with us, please drop an email to chinchillapersians@gmail.com with a phone number, thank you.
 
The motto with one sentece by Robertson, D.V.M.: "We just seldom see the so called inevitable diseases in our patients, when we can get the owners to raise the pets on their natural foods.”

 
Please be so kind and TAKE TIME TO READ Useful Info part and Important Info part on this page before turning to us, thank you. We keep our cats and kittens on a natural / organic, closest to their natural life way which works very well. We have no health issues except our very elderly boy (17), the 13 yrs old and 10 years old are still very healthy. The 'recipe' is very easy: No vaccination at all and proper, mainly raw meat diet (high quality, balanced), plenty of fresh air and moving, possibly no chemicals in the environment (our garden is organic) and no chemicals around cats or applied to cats only for 'prevention'.
Recently, as this part is equaly important. If you live in a heavy E-smog ridden area, EMf protection / reduction of E-smog exposure is a must. (You'll find details about the how part below among our warnings.)
Cats live inside but have access to our net-secured garden. Young kittens visit garden only for more true photos (supervised short time).
 
How kittens grow up:
Girls give birth upstairs in one of our bedrooms and stay there till the kittens are 5-6 weeks old. Bedrooms are warmer and till the age of 5-6 weeks they are not so 'interactive'. They slowly learn to come out from 'nest' and walk. During this time we take limited amount of photos not to upset the mother. Around the age of 6 weeks they are 'relocated' downstairs to our big living room where there is plenty of place to run, chase a toy, climb. We start to make photos or videos regularly. Many photos are made outside because of light conditions but usually on a toy-house roof or in our arms. Also that's the time we start to play with them regularly. They become familiar with noises around, us and other cats, too.
Feeding - we believe that food is 'everything' to keep them healthy: They are on their mother's milk and we involve only if needed (very rare). Later they share the plate with raw meat with the mother while the mothers also feed them with their milk. As the mothers are kept on high quality, balanced(!) raw, kittens first meal is always raw. We use only a little dry, kitten sized bites (to be sure no one is hungry between main meals) but kittens not tend to be interested in it till the age of 5-6 weeks and even then most of them prefer raw to dry. We never limit food, raw is on the plates twice a day, we tend to give more than less. Kittens eat like horses (suprisingly big amounts to their sizes) as growing very fast, mothers also need a lot to be able to produce milk enough even to as big litters as sometimes 5-7 kittens and in this way they can do without losing singificant weight.
Using the litter: Mothers teach them, very rare we have to involve of teaching, by the time they come down to the living room they usually 'litter trained'.

 
 
 
KITTENS
 
 
 
   
This cute chinchilla boy' name is Sipirc. Upon vet-check he was found healthy and in a very good weight to his age, impressive 1kg at the age of 8 weeks. He is the first kitten after so many years who is very similar to my beloved Choosie (his granny), who was a very rare old type chinchilla persian (the true chinchilla persian) we lost recently at the age of 19 yrs. He is kind, affectionate, tend to be very attached, following us around. Nights are a bit less peaceful with him because he tend to be playing with fingers while we would like to sleep. He almost never meows and likes to observe things.
His name is a funny hungarian word, the very cute and gentle version of shoo, people use it smiling when they try to send away the beloved child to go to play. Pron is: Shipirts
 
 

 

 

 
 
 
 
 
 
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An older video to show how to feed with raw meat... as we got many questions in past in connection with the safety of raw meat and what kitten can eat, in this video the meat is chopped (bones at joints) poussin' parts on the plate surrounded by chopped organs. As the mother eats, she teaches the kittens "what considered to be food" and how to eat. Bones always must be raw and safer if not grinded, kittens can chew smaller bones without any problem when they are 8-9 weeks old and after. Till then they usually lick all of the meat from the bones and start to chew on the very soft ends of the bones. They feel very well when they can cope it and with which one (bigger, smaller, softer, etc).
 

 
 
 
 
 

GENERAL INFOS: Our cats are PKD free (tested and certified via Langford Genetics, UK, certificates can be seen here.).
They are full pedigree persians (ancestros are known to 5 lines or more) and mostly 'import' cats (came here with us from Hungary) or their descendants and were officialy registered mainly in Hungary (some were re-registered with GCCF but as process is costly and bureaucratic we can't see real benefit of it).
We are now TICA members, we chose TICA due that we have 'import' cats originaly registered there.
 
Mother and father can be seen, visiting us is welcomed starting from when kittens reach 6-7 weeks old age: on weekdays after 7-7.30 pm, on weekends starting from 2-3 pm, weekends preferred if possible, thank you.
All of our kittens leave us with:
- pedigree papers,
- written proof of health-check, detailed health records from the vet
- de-wormed only if required (kittens are high quality human grade food, the same you use for steaks, we never had a worm case)
- non-registered.
They are able to eat alone (and completely familiar with raw diet) and litter-trained when leaving us, also familiar with people and other cats' company.
We let them go between the age of 10-12 weeks which way everyone can find a suitable time to pick up chosen kitten even from big distances BUT 10 weeks age is the default, if you wish to make an exception reconcil with us please.
We will ask you to follow our natural diet, it can be a bit demanding (but cheaper than vet's bill) and works very well to keep up good health.

We completely GAVE UP ON VACCINATION in 2014 due to a horrific experience when a wrong batch of cat-flu vaccine - Feligen RCP batch no: 4JS5 END 10/15 -almost killed a full litter of healthy kittens of ours - and not willing to vaccinate kittens anymore, also sorry but we tend to choose those people as owners who are willing to follow this together with the healthy natural diet part.
If you are worried about this part, please take time to see our reviews.


When we have to decide on vaccination we can make good decisions only if we have informaton enough. I mean PROOF but this "expert, media, vet or anyone" - who very likely have financial benefit - said and we believe only based on faith in them.
THIS KNOWLEDGE IS VITAL, please bare with me. I KINDLY suggest to follow the news on the virus isolation WORLDWIDE MEDICAL DEBATE AMONG BRAVE PROFESSIONALS. I know how it sounds, I had known much earler that something was wrong with viruses than it became the subject of the new debate (you won't hear about it in the MSM). I can also recall that back then it took me 3 years to understand what are the real causes of certain illnesses if not viruses (most often poisons or nature dictated de-poisoning events due to fast growing). My thought went in circles till the point I understood the basics about Germ vs. Terrain theories then I finally understood and the knowledge settled.
Did you know that there is an international STATEMENT on Virus Isolation (the impossiblity of virus isolation) signed by 10000+ people, called SOVI - CLICK
I also kindly suggest to watch this little well built and easy to understand documentary loaded with proof, and entertaining enough which takes you back to the history of viruses and pandemics, to the failed experiments which tried to prove the contagion phenomenon and the real causes of many well known 'viral' illnesses including as big names as polio or poxes. While it is not exactly about cats' viruses the basic picture is the same. In connection with the flu I also suggest to read The Invisible Rainbow from A. Firstenberg - this is the only part missing from this documentary while the info (if you wish to understand flu-like illnesses) is also vital, flu was always connected to changes in the natural ElectroMagnetic Field. Every inventions when became wide-spread (electricity, radio, radar, satilites, etc.) started world-wide serious flu pandemics lasting for 1-2 years. During the Spanish flu it was the radio. The big flu pandemics' dates are perfect match.
 
THE BIGGEST FRAUD EVER ON OUR HEALTH - CLICK
There is a brave canadian lady who sent out tons of FOI requests asking about virus isolations from goverment bodies, institutes, WORLDWIDE. The answer was always quite the same. No virus ever was proven properly isolated and proven to cause the illness it was blamed on it.
How is that possible?
Let me introduce you the virus isolation process a fast and easy to understand way. When they took a sample from an 'infected' ill person, that's a sample with everything in it, eg. lung-fluid. There is no part in the process which would separate the actual supposed virus from the whole because it is not possible (according to their science). They just add other genetic! materials to it coming from other living things like bovine serum, monkey kidney, then they starve the cell cultrure and poison it with antibiotics using antibiotics which are deadly to kidney cells. When the cells die, they release exosomes (identical to what you know as viruses) and the 'scientists' happily demand they've found and isolated the virus. They never proved that their so called 'isolated' virus can cause anything in a healthy person. Ever. FOIs reveal that health/science institutions have no record of any “virus” having been found in a host and isolated/purified. Because virology isn’t a science. - CLICK
Stefan Lanka virologist made this experiment and documented it with only one VITAL difference proving that the isolation process is a sham. He didn't add ANY SAMPLE FROM ANY ILL (OR HEALTHY) PEOPLE into it, he used only the bovine serum, monkey kidney and antibiotics and he ended up with 'viruses'.
Now ask yourself please if there is no real scientific proof of existence of viruses than what are in the vaccines we are sometimes forced to inject into our pets?
 
OUR EXPERIENCES AND OBSERVATIONS: As we are contacted many owners of our kittens, I can tell: we never heard a case of cat-flu or other serious 'viral' infection in connection with our kittens nor we experienced it with our very own cats. They are healthier without vaccinations AND living on natural, quality diet. You can read details under the "EATING" part (bottom of page) what we kindly ask you to read.
INSURANCE: We are sorry, we can't advise you on insurances, we have none. However years ago someone told us that John Lewis is willing to insure unvaccinated cats.
TEMPERS: some things generally true for all of our kittens: all of them are very playful, have plenty of energy to play, affectionate, they are rather clever and curious types. Since stopping with vaccinations kittens temper developed a lot, they are far more balanced, relaxed, easy-to-live with types compared to those who were vaccinated back then.
 
IMPORTANT: We are not business but hobby breeders and possibly wish to stay in this way as this is the only way to really protect them for lobby dictated new regualtions like a compulsory vaccination.
 
If you reserve a kitten we keep in touch with you and send photos or a video where they play together appx. once a week about reserved kitten starting from its 6 weeks age till it is ready to go to involve you to the development of your future friend.
 
We are sorry but due to lot of time-wasters we regularly meet we ask deposit for our kittens and only deposit secures. Deposits are not refundable. We also keep up the right to step back during the process for the sake of the kitten if we must (very rare but serious cases like client not suitable to be an owner due to serious level of ignorance / negligence, we promised a kitten based on their lies like breeder pretends to buy "just a pet", reseller offers a loving forever home). Anyone with council license is STRICTLY EXCLUDED, sorry, if you wish to now why, read the law and their statoury guidance as a perfect example how to live on cat's like parasites, forcing the licensed ones to pay for everything but proper food. Also vaccination is compulsory!

 
- We are sorry but if you booked a visit without deposit, please show up or notify us asap if you can't come, happens just too often that we are sitting here waiting instead of working around or going out arranging things and people don't come and don't bother even to notify us. Thank you.
 

As we feel responsible for our kittens even after they find new homes we are always happy to help with advise to the owners if they wishes. And we are simply grateful if we can have fresh news from time to time about them.
 
We are dedicated to cats: we don't advise anything which can be harmful to them. (Please see Useful Info part for details and warnings-dangers parts what we try to keep up to date)
 
According to our experience people like to welcome kittens during winter - on the other hand cats like to give birth during late spring - summer- early automn.
Please make your plans accordingly to this if you can, thanks.
 
 
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  USEFUL INFORMATION ABOUT HOW WE KEEP THEM
I kindly ask not just new visitors but already-owners to come (back) sometimes to check new infos what we wish to share for the benefit of cats - thank you.


 
IMPORTANT WARNINGS what can affect cats' health - PLEASE READ EVEN IF YOUR CAT IS NOT FROM US
 
2023 autumn: RADIATION WARNING - fast update on necessary knowledge after the past 3 years of researh - PLEASE READ
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This is a much bigger problem we originaly thought, I could fill a page with links to science, cience you'll never read in MSM or hear about it on TV and can affect cats and kittens with dire consequences. Most of you probably know / suspect that 5G maybe not so safe after all or mobile phones but it is much more complex issue.
There are countless warnings as people waking up, this is about the SMART METERS affecting pets. Several reviews are about pets including WEIRD BEHAVIOUR CHANGES, SUDDEN TUMOURS, fur loss, seizures, HEART PROBLEMS and more. Gut BACTERIA also extremly sensitive to radiation and the effect accumulates just how X-ray's does.
PLEASE CLICK - Worldwide testimonies
It affects the DEVELOPMENT of young bodies inc. heart and tend to cause circulation issues or - as was proven - even clots. - Recently HAPPENED WITH US: blood thinner drug was offered to our 19 yrs old cat who had no known blood issue just as "PREVENTION".
Why? Did it become an every-day issue? Pets with clots?."...In animal studies, exposure to radiofrequency radiation has been associated with structural and biochemical changes of the heart. These changes include irregularity and degeneration of heart muscle fibers, congestion of blood vessels in cardiac muscle, increases in cardiac weight, and changes in the levels of key metabolic substances important for heart function. Examples of these adverse impacts identified in laboratory animals are listed in Table 1. ..."
PLEASE CLICK
When you hear about non-ionising radiation you probably think that strenght what matters - sadly no. It is a well researched area but we were not let to know about it. There was a scientist called Rife who was able to cure different conditions with ELF (extra low frequencies), the alternative medicine just getting familiar with it again and his curing frequencies can be found on the internet - curing on a very width scale according to reviews. If one can ruin a cancerous cell with ELF it begs for the conclusion that the oppositie can be done, illnesses can be caused by them. Anything can emit ELFs, invisible, hard to detect.
In the past 3-4 years we heard about weird cases, absolutely unheard of in the previous 15 years or so. Healthy cats who had no known health problems just suddenly tend to drop to storke or similar, or develop a suspected "allergy" where the allergy test' results is not satisfying and can't explain it. Changes in behaviour also happens. You must know, the cat can't complain with words, the cat just can give you signs of being unhappy, to make you notice something is wrong.
Luckily - to our best knowledge - we are not affected but we think this is because of that our house is EMF shieleded and even if it is not perfet, it helps a lot to reduce harmful radiation.
What we personaly experienced that bluetooth radiation could cause problems like difficulty of walking in kittens, which resolved after we switched off the bluetooth we accidentally had left swithched on a tablet. The discance between the tablet and kittens were about a meter. Earlier a mobile phone made them dangerously sick (my previous warning from 2020), never happened again as we don't use mobiles in the house around cats and kittens.
People are absolutely not aware, they love their phones and never think of the possible harm caused by them. Recently a lovely lady and her daughter visited us, both with mobiles in hands. I switched the EMF meter on. The lady mobile was radiating in the RED dangerous area with extra hight values. Mine also tend to do that from time to time but not constant.
Recently I read a book with a vital info in it. Becket's Body Electric. He researched the phenomenon that how certain animals could grow back lost legs, tails, like lizards, salamander. The core of the info was: if the polarization of cells was changed in a certain interval of (re)development, the animal grew a second head but a new tail - now adapt this please when we are talking about developing animals (kittens). Electro magnetic radiation messes with the polarization of cells as was presented in the Whitte material (my first warning from 2020, 2nd link).
 
2023: EXTREMLY DISTURBING - ARE OUR PETS TARGETED? - This part... I won't comment on it but kindly ask you to click to the links and have a look, THANK YOU.Government considered killing all Britain's pet CATS at the start of the Covid pandemic because they feared they were spreading virus, claims former health minister, CLICK
 
CARBON PAW PRINT - WHY OUR OBLIGATE CARNIVORE PETS HAVE BECOME "enemies" CLICK

 
2020 spring: RADIATION WARNING - PLEASE READ - this is a subject I was not aware of for a very long time, now I had first hand experience. I think it is very important to openly talk about the problem. Please KEEP YOUR CAT, KITTEN AWAY FROM MOBILE PHONES, WIFI, SMART METER etc. You must know that the allowed radiation level much higher here in the UK and in the US and Canada then other parts of the world. I wrote about cases in details what were reported to us under the show more button, you can read them if you are interested in - but first I'd like to write about the protection and what we did to protect our cats and kittens and ourselves:
We used EMS shielding paint all over the house including ceilings, we implemented EMF shielding foils to the windows. We bought a router without WIFI and cabled back. We don't use our mobiles or very rarely and outside of the house only, they are in flight mode. No appliances here are smart, expect the TV we haven't switched on for 5-6 years now.I haven't get rid off the mobiles as use them to make photos in flight mode. On our laptops we switched off all the cards (Device Manager) providing WIFI connection or Bluetooth. Everything what you use with remote control emits some radiation and the effect is culmulative (adding up). We changed the light bulbs back to incadescends (new ones also emits radiation).
It is not just 2 healthy litter of kittens grew up since the EMF protection without any problems but we also experieced improvement in our health conditions as long as we stay in the house. If you think it is too much, please read the cases under the show more button and I kindly encourage everyone to read after radiation. If you prefer an entertaining lecture watch this:
PLEASE CLICK HERE TO WATCH - Dana A. about radiation and effective protection

If you prefer a deeper understanding of the topik watch this - presentiation of a scientist:
PLEASE CLICK HERE TO WATCH - Russell Witte education about radiation

If you prefer an Enghlis gentleman who is a professional of the subject watch this:
PLEASE CLICK HERE TO WATCH - with Mark Steele, Sasha Stone's documentary
- Case 1: One year old cat, previously healthy, well kept on a heahtly diet, no problems suddenly "dropped" limp and its lower chin dropped, upon examination the diagnosis was stroke - and stroke is not something that healthy, young cats tend to have, we never saw a single case so far! ever. - It went blind but finally survived and recovered almost fully. Happened a months ago or so - time is important.
- Case 2: The only breeder I am connected in UK and sometimes chat with, living in London: 9 kittens of hers died, they just suddenly "dropped dead" previously they looked dizzy. From 11 kittens only two survived. (No such known illness to my best knowledge and never seen this before.) They were in the same room, it happend in the last couple of months, they have the WIFI in that room)
- Case 3 (happened with us) a couple of months ago and never again but we did serious, professional EMF shielding at once and investing a lot: previously very healthy litter of kittens as always, the first we saw that 3 went limp for this or that leg during a day. Sometimes it happens that they jump badly and hurt a leg but 3? After a short time all the 5 went limp, but they were willing to play with us when lying on their backs and could use the 'limp' legs. They looked dizzy, they were reluctant to move, they got up only to eat and use the litter. It took us 2-3 days to arrange a vet due to lockdown, we picked up the most ill looking and the most healthy looking to check (as vet requested not to take all of them). Upon examination she noticed sky- high fever and pneumonia WITHOUT ANY RESPIRATORY SYMPTOMS, NO COUGHING, NO EYE OR NOSE DISCHARGE and she warned us not to be suprised if 1-2 couldn't make it. As diagnosis she was baffled, no such known cat illness. I agreed, even - assuming a viral or bacterial illness - some are always more strong and resistant. No way they all went down with pneumonia in just 1-2 days. We struggled a lot to help them, we refused to use drugs only to raise the poison level, we used only amoxicillin based antibiotics but to lower the fever we used sodium-ascorbate (that is the form their body produces as vit C), many times a day, we used water to cool their paws (soaked in not very cold water), we used a lot of ORGANIC liver to boost them with vitamins. All of them are recovered during appx. 10 days but they were willing to play after 4-5 days, the only thing we saw they slept far more than usual.
I did my homework as always. I suspected radiation emitting from new towers, antennas and so for some time as it turned out that I am EMF hypersensitive (means that some people noticing the invisible waves of elevated radiation feeling sick and producing symptoms what others don't). Here comes my observations: The kittens were in the living room. Where we used two laptops and where my mobile was on the table and receiving 4G volte. They tend to sleep around me (closer than 2 meters), we have some new towers at the direction of the window of the living room. Their other favourite place to sleep was the cat tree very close to that window. We had much smaller (younger, even new born) kittens upstairs, nothing happened with them. Nothing very visible happend with the mother of the sick kittens - she slept more than usual and sometimes jumped badly, weirdly as if she would have been less skillful but that was all. We saw birds in our garden to drop from the sky, confused, stayed very close (unusually close) to us for half a minute or so, after that they managed to fly away. We noticed that our cats were a bit more sleepy and some were less skillfull when jumping here and there. I noticed I had terrible vertigo from time to time and headache. I noticed that starting March or so, when I used my iPhoneX (using 4G volte) I got asthma attack even after 2-3 minutes of chatting and I have difficulty of breath as if a belt would have pushed the oxygen out of my breast. It went away after long hours like half a day or so. I had that phone for 2 years, its "behaviour" changed only recently. REST IS MY GUESS BASED ON MY RESEARCH: Now we have an elevated level of radiation, everything what works with remote control emits radiation and radiation is culmulative (like you slowly fill the bin to the top...). 5G works together with the rest of the G-s and fluorescent lights and our tech like cell phones, WIFI and so. The radiation topic is very complex as even humidity can change a lot but the easiest way to understand if you imagine the waves of the sea. Some waves can fortify each others. You might be swept away (harmed) but your friend apart won't be hurt as the waves there were less strong, less concentrated, broke on a cliff and so.
THE EFFECT (after a lot of research): The proven effect of radiation - and you don't need to have 5G, even your WIFI, mobile or smart meter can do it with you - messing with red blood cells. There are several studies, proven with photos or even with in-real-time video about it, red blood cells under microscope close to a smart meter. It causes harm to red blood cells (those carry the oxygen to your body, cells. One of the effect is the lack of oxygen and your organs can hurt so badly that you end up an organ failure. The other effect is that the red blood cells knot - means thrombosis - little knotted hard blood particles closing your arteries or veins - in my opinion that happened with the kittens - suddenly drop and die or to develop pneumonia (died lung cells in numbers).


2018 summer - FLEA KILLER PROBLEM - BRAVECTO: According to an owner who has 4 cats from us, a flea-killer looked to be poisonous, all the 4 cats of hers got side effects, one even was very poorly, they reported the case to the manufacturer, cats seem to recovered. The product name was: "BRAVECTO"
Another report on BRAVECTO: 'I have read on your website about Bravecto flea killer...it did exactly the same to mine! She had to have steroid injections and fluids to overcome it due to sickness and diarrhoea.'

By the way this sad case is the proof why we never suggest flea/worm treatment as prevention. Even if an adult cat can cope with it, steroids are a way to surpass syndromes but not to cure the illness, a kitten could be killed in this way.
Two things: one is that due that many people use it as 'prevention' fleas became more and more resistant while probably due to this pharma makes more and more potent poisons (but they are poisonous to the cats, too for some level). Second that for me - sorry - it is just like as if we start to treat our kids with poison as prevention before going to school or kindergarden due to a fear that another kid there might have bugs. We don't do it do we? but would go for treatmet when an infections stands or maybe for a preventive stuff if the danger is real like a real case around. Nowadays there are very potent poisons for house (spray) and cats (drop on) to kill fleas if they appear (with us happened only twice in 10 yrs), what's the point to risk our cats' health and to burden their liver and kindneys all the time and 'in advance'?
 
2017 automn: We DON'T use Orijen Cat and Kitten NEW Formula any more due to experienced problems because of heavy metal content (arsenic, lead). We understood that heavy metal content can vary from bach to bach - we don't take this risk. Starting from 2017 automn after long research we switched to Farmina Natural and Delicious grain free type food as strictly just 'background' food but main food is quality, balanced raw meat.
 
 
 

EATING: MOTTO - 'HAVE YOU SEEN A HOUSE CAT OR EVEN A LION IN NATURE EATING RICE?...'
Cats are obligate carnivores.
We keep our cats and kittens on high qualiy RAW diet which is organic or free range meat. Meat here always means a 'mirrored prey' with skin, bones, organs (heart, liver, stomach) and not just pure meat. Ratio should be somewhere around at: 80% meat, 10% bones, 10% organs. Raw diet healthy just if well balanced. Nowadays we also feed full-preys type diet (frozen day-old chickens) which means your cat will know from the beginning how to handle a small bird which is the closest to their natural need and diet. Mothers teach them what is food and what is not food, because of it our kittens first meal always raw meat. Besides raw meat we use Farmina N&D dry as 'background' food.(We never use brands like R. Canin or Wellbeloved or Iams or Hills and so - in my opinion they are low quality food with fillers and other stuffs like unnecessary oils to cheat the owner as oil will make fur shiny but lack of proper nutrition value remains an issue - they are risk to health and we never try to save on health).
Dry is always in front of them with some fresh water they can eat as much as they want between the two main meals of raw meat, they won't go fat if kept on quailty diet without junk additional stuffs. Just dry won't work but will ruin kidneys with time and never can be as nutritious as raw no matter its meat content. For details this is a very good web site: https://feline-nutrition.org/nutrition/your-cats-nutritional-needs-the-basics
If you need more detailed info please use the button below, if not the basic knowledge: bones always have to be raw, liver always has to be organic (Waitrose has organic chicken liver), never give raw pork to your cat (or dog), pls. possibly don't give added vitamins, calcium, taurine to your cats as balance matters, avoid poor quality meat where animal was kept on GM soy / corn (meat accumulate poisons and most of the meat in supermarkets come from places where animals were kept on these), if you give milk give raw and organic and goat's is better than cow's but cats are fine without it, if you give eggs please give organic, don't give salmon - I dare to say don't give fish or just rarely and even then avoid salmon unless organic and fully avoid tuna, don't give food with plant's oil but animal grease.
According to our experience no such thing as sensitive stomach but poor / unappropiet diet.
Please don't forget: Their real protection is their good working immune system and no. 1 boost of it is the quality proper food.

- Why bones have to be raw? - if you cook, fry, microvawe bones' material change from a bit flexible to glass-like one with sharp edges when chewed and can be dangerous, if you defrost raw meat with bones use cold or luke-warm water to do it.
- Why liver has to be organic? - liver is a nature-given mavelous vitamin and enzyme 'bomb' but other hand it is the organ which responsible to depoisoning and if meat was on a poor diet, hormons, etc its liver accumulate the poisons, too.
- Why raw pork is forbidden? - very rare cases it can have a fatal virus (fatal just for cats and dogs, no harm for us, because of it it is not tested for that virus)
- Why no added vitamins, calcium, taurine or food with added stuffs? - Taurine: they need it but amount is matters, raw meat pieces and organs have enough for the cat, in this way you can't overdose. Give a little organic chicken liver for the vitamins 1-2 times a week, artificial vitamins are not useful for cats but can be harmful. Cats are very different in this way, while we have enzymes and other stuffs to transform necessary vitamins to a digestible / absorbable form, they can't many of vitamin types, this is why they hunt for living prey and need raw meat so demandingly: they 'steal' / use their already transformed vitamins and enzymes gaining them mostly from their prey's organs - this is the trick and this part is VITAL to keep them healthy. Calcium is necessary but it can be fatal if overdosed and if artificial no one can tell how much will be absorbed. Natural source of calcium is raw bones, they feel how much they need and will eat bones according to this or go back to bowl of Orijen.
- Why not just dry? - Cats were 'designed by nature' to gain some of liquids from their raw prey, due to this can't feel thirth very well, if kept just on dry their kidneys will be ill with time. Beside this dry is processed (heated) meat and has lost many enzymes and vitamins due to the process.
- 'I think you made up this GM problem and organic is so expensive' - no I didn't. It is complex topic, core infos: 1. it was engineered to be resistant to insects due to this GM plants make 'built-in' poisons as protection. When we eat these plants they a kind of 'transform' our useful gut bacterias to a way that they start to produce the toxin and poisoning us. 2. their engineering a kind of a failed and they use more and stronger, very harmful pesticides like Roundup which is carcinogen and accumulates in meat, diary, vegetables, grass, it is even in the drinking water nowadays. If your cat ever has an 'unstoppable' running stomac first please start to being suspicious of its food like hidden GM content and water.
- Hormons: Farmed animals are kept on mainly on soy bean in these days (natural high hormon content), modern pesticides decomposes to a hormon-like stuff and can cheat the body. Unwanted hormons messing body's own hormon-system and a very possible cause of sky-rocketing thyroid problems, infertility problems - avoid as much as you can when feeding your cat.
- SALT?! - Yes, they need some salt, pls don't forget that a living prey has salt (blood is pretty salty), whenever I fry chicken I give them some salty skin (just 1-2 bits).
- What's the fuss about cereals? - In nature they can eat as much as prey had it in its stomach, it's around 5 % of the meat / prey at most. 1-2 bites of your quality bread or pizza sometimes won't make big harm.
- Why raw diary / meat / 'everything'? - here's a very interesting experiment about what will happen cats if not kept on raw diet - if you wish to know more please visit: http://www.whale.to/vaccine/james9.html


DRINKING WATER: Nowadays it became a very important part of cat-health and many people still unaware of. As cats are smaller in size they tend to give sings earlier if something is wrong with the water (or food, or something else). In most areas tap water is unhealthy to drink. In our area chlorine level is too high and flouride also part of water, and nowadays many pesticides, herbicides and drugs end up in drinking water somehow. In connection with added fluoride and other unhealthy stuffs in water I kindly suggest to do your own research and do it away from he mainstream propaganda. But I'll tell you two examples: 1. I never ever maganaged to start sourdough in tap water (only in osmosis filtered water). 2. AND BREEDERS BEWARE: Never try to raise up a kitten in formula (milk powder) and boiled tap water to help a mother if not milk enough or anything other reason as it will kill them and kill them after only one feeding (they will refuse the second) they will die in pain in 1-2 days. While the same formula works well in osmosis filtered water. When we arrived here we didn't know about the added flouride and the overall quality of water and paid price, and poor kittens and some cats, too. It's not end with kittens and if you wish to know more push the button - but before that: We use 2-3 types of water - after many years of trying and experience. One is the osmosis filtered one we use for cooking or to delute milk, delute a high-minerals type water. For cats we nowadays use only Volvic (that one is the preferred without deluting) or Malvern from the srpings but as the second is rather far (many hours driving while we can bring just 1-2 weeks worth we do it not very often). Effects of fluorinated water on cats (and humans):
they will have gum-inflammations with bad smelling breath, due to this chewing will be painful (reluctant to eat bones and pieces of meat while chewing would be important for teeth) and finally, due to the constant inflammation they will lost their teeth (and we did it too).
Our body mistakenly tend to built in fluoride instead of calcium into our bones if both present. It's a poison and was used according to this (was used as rat poison in old times)
Brita filters won't remove fluoride neither many chemicals, it mostly improve just the taste.
Can be many other poisonsus stuff, chemicals and hormons in tap water (around 300 kinds while water suppliers test for just around 20).
If you have a kitten or cat with health problem consider to change not just the food but water, too.


Poisons around your cat you may not aware of: List is not full - please take time and use google if you are uncertain, but:
when you give a bit to your cat from your food you must know
- artifical sweeteners can be deadly poisons and lot of prepared food was made with them
- chocholate is also poisonous to cats
- several fruits and vegetables
- house and garden plants (for example lilies but usually all kind with onion roots) and several others, too
- fertilisers
- Paracetamol and many other medicines you may dropped earlier
- antifreeze liquids
- bleach / washing liquids
- bug killers (as mentioned above they decompost to hormon-like stuff and cheats body messing with its own hormon-system)
- flea killers - it's an urban legend that they are harmless. Worst types are which have permethrin in them (check active ingredient when you buy flea killers as permetrine poisoning is one of the leading death cause of cats) but eg Advocate spot-on can cause abortion - with common sense: if stuff can cause abortion then it is not harmless...Some of them can cause bloody stool, the other can couse hair-loss if cat is sensitive. During 30+ years it happened just twice we had to use flea-killers, first we used Frontline, second time we used Advocate and Stronghold. We never use them as "prevention" but when problem stands or danger is real (for example: you just have heard that your neigbourh's dog got fleas). If you use flea killers in the house never use it on the place where your cat likes to sleep (they lick it from their fur) but rather clean it or if you can't clean threw it out.
- 'oil-therapy' - forget about it please, cats are diffenet (very different and many plants and plant' product are poisonous to them) - but with common sense: Cats decide that what is food (edible) and what is not food based on smells. If the whole living area smells like lavender how could they smell meat?


 
GROOMING: If you keep your cat on a commercial diet its fur very easely goes knotted and you have to groom on daily basis. (Unless food is full with grease / oils which makes fur shiny but it is a 'cheating' of manufacturers because fur' conditon does not reflect the true health-condition of cat.
On the other hand, if you keep your cat on a natural diet (raw meat) you do not have to groom very often apart from 2 periods in a year when they change their fur (we groom them once in a week or so). You should groom kitten regulary to make it familiar with the process.

An interesting details for people with cat-allergy: cats who are kept on natural diet do not tend to cause / trigger allergic reactions. (Scientific explanation that not the fur itself causes the allergy but cat's salvia on fur - healthy cats' salvia do not tend to trigger allergies). Another benefit of this diet that fur is just gorgeous, shiny, soft and silky.
Beside this persians need hairball paste or "cat-grass" otherwise they will chew plants all around, poisonuos ones or not. Normal grass is ok to chew. You can even plant "cat-grass" into a pot inside your house. If you feed whole-prey type diet, it will solve the problem as feathers of a small bird or skin of a mouse works for them as fiber works for us.


 
EYE CLEANING: Persians have shorter nose, was a bad fashion to breed persians with very short nose, it's unhealthy, old types had long noses. These type of cats often have shorter tear-channels and because of it some of them tend to produce a lot of discharge / gums in the corner of their eyes. You have to clean the eyes' corners to remove soft discharge with a luke-warm, wet cotton piece otherwise area will be baldish and irriated skin is painful to the cat. And just so ugly.


 
LITTER AND LITTER TRAINING: We mostly use silicon types litters (chrystals) without extra "parfum" in it (avoid parfumed ones).

"Litter-tranined": In reality parents / older cats teach kittens to use the litter and they learn it very quickly, once it was learnt they won't forget it. In your home put the litter-tray in a 'sheltered' area or in a corner where kitten feels safe. When kitten arrives show the litter like put the kitten on it, gently grab its front paws and do some scratching movement on litter. If a 'litter-trained' kitten / cat starts not to use the litter (rare but can happen), it is a kind of 'revenge' reaction, it means that kitten / cat is upset and wants you to know about it. For people who regulary spent too much time away from home we kindly advise to adopt two kittens, as in this case they can entertain each other.

If kitten did not use the tray put its nose very close to the dirt it made, talk to it on a voice / manner which reflects that you are sad, disappointed, upset and after this put it to the litter to show the right place again. Usually this is enough but consider the possibity that kitten is right and you really 'did' something upsetting like neglecting it.


 
INSIDE OR OUTSIDE?: Motto: Even prisoners allowed to go out for some fresh air and sunshine.
If you have a garden or balcony and it can be secured eg with net on the top of the fence or on balcony's open area let it go outside. They enjoy it and they need fresh air for good health as much as our children or us.
We secured our garden on a very easy way, we bought cat-net, cut it for 40 cms wide, long pieces and mantled it to the top of the fence in a way where fence and the net close a 90 degrees' angle, it is almost impossible to climb and impossible to stand on it. Not very attractive but efficient. We also have this kind of net on windows to pervent them to escape to direction of road.
There is an option for people who does not have gardens or balconies - a harmness and walking or carrying the cat - just like dog' owners do it. It requiers some training from the beginning (kitten-age)
 
NEUTERING: Our kittens never leave us neutered. It is the owner's decision in a later time as - according to our best of knowledge - kittens need their hormons to develop properly. Because of it we suggest neutering for the first sign of getting matured which is individualy different but it is around 7 months - 1 year old age. Early neutering is cruel, in old times little boys were neuted for church' choirs to maintain their high / angelic voice - it's affect the body's development.


 
Health, VACCINATIONS, medicines: Motto: 'THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS SAFE VACCINE'.
As true knowledge about this subject is VITAL if you are uncertain please take time to read this part even if it is long. We are contionously researching this area and also have our very own experiences - in this way we can save you enormous time of research but if wish to research please go and watch documentaries like 'Truth about vaccines' or 'Truth about pet cancer' (Google will help). What is true for humans, true for cats, too.
 
IMPORTANT UPDATE as of 2022 - THE BIG VIRUS DEBATE
I'll make it short, there is an ongoing debate about viruses / exosomes which is extremly important and changes everything we thought we knew, I kindly suggest to follow this debate and decide yourself, you can find many good articles about it here CLICK.
End of the update.
 
Vaccines are a big part of veterinary business while more and more vets admit that they did not have proper education about side effects (you'll find their confessions under Show More button.)
On the other hand I might lost many of otherwise nice people since 2014 insisting on not to vaccinate our kittens, no matter what.
So I kindly ask you if you wish to vaccinate the kitten even after reading this part - just simply don't turn to us - thank you.
There is no such thing as safe vaccine because - as were tought to us - 'viruses' need a 'soil' to 'breed' during vaccines' manufacturing process. (Now, at 2023 I would add this - virology is not a science the problem is much deeper and goes back the the debate of Germ THEORY vs TERRAIN THEORY - our very own observations gave proof to the second.) This soil is can be anything from monkey-kidney cells, aborted fetus, placenta and cancer' cells (foreign DNAs). Problem is that manufacturers unable to fully clean vaccines from these foreign cells - the "soil". Plus most of them have so called adjuvants - mercury, formaldehyde and aluminium in them, sometimes even dirt like very tiny glass particles (happened). Of course that immune system very likely will start a war against these foreign poisonous materials - in our opinion excessive vaccination is the cause that autism, autoimmune diseases, allergies and never-seen-new illnesses are sky-rocketing. In the case of cats it is proven that cat-flu vaccine caused a kind of kidney disease pandemic in older cats like cats immun systems ruined their very own kidneys due to foreign DNA in vaccines. Also part of the problem that most of owners could not make the connection between a vaccine administered earlier and a disease which become visible just months or even years after vaccination.
What you can expect if things doesn't go smoothly:
1. Sort therm side effects - you'll notice it 'at once' (but will be unable to change it back and you can easily lost your pet while watching its suffering), it is not as rare as usually was told to us. In this case don't hope that vets can help - they can't - we've experienced - from this point your pet's life depends on your common sense and its very own immune system or rather terrain, how well it was kept and how healthy it was perviously. (pls see long version under 'Show More' button below - eg Little Queen's case and our 2014' summer kittens' case)
2. Long time side effects - you'll probably won't make the connection between a vaccination which happened weeks-months-years earlier and the developed autoimmune disease, you'll just pay a fortune while probably fail to keep alive your pet for a long time without suffering. (In US they tend to give vaccines into the cat's tail, as it can be removed via surgery if cat develops cancer on the place where vaccine was given which happens quite often.)
3. OK, but if I do not vaccinate what about 'infections'?
The sentence we were trained is: 'Benefits outweight the risk.' - It is up to us to decide that it is true or not but we should decide only after we had enough TRUE information about the subject.
I can't promise you that your well kept (proper, healthy diet) cat never goes ill (and would be very silly to promise it if a cat is poorly kept) but I can share my own experience: I've been living with cats from 40 years now, has kittens regularly from almost 20 years or so (deal with more cats on daily basis).
- Well kept / properly kept healthy cats do not tend to go ill or they simply easily cope with it. I've never seen a single cat-flu case during this long time of period except once in 2014, due to a cat-flu 'live virus vaccine', a 'wrong batch' which poisoned our kittens (as were injected directly into them) and caused them unbereable suffering and life-threatening condition (deatils below). Cat-flu is a kitten illness (a bit similarly how children tend to get chicken pox but adults), well kept, healthy adult cats don't tend to have it.)
- I've never seen a single FIV / FelV / FIP / Panleukopenia / Rabbies case during this long time whether a cat of mine was vaccinated or not (from 2014 we do not vaccinate and I have several non-vaccinated cats - they are very healthy - also people who got kittens from us, unvaccinated and did not vaccinate later, did not give feedback to us about a single case of any of these serious illnesses and this group grew big enough during 9 years).
- On the other hand, I've experienced that vaccines can start an 'epidemic' and can cause autoimmun diseases (mild one or not).
- Many of illnesses does not have vaccine against it. Which have... their effectiveness are highly controversial, questionable. There are not so many researches about cats but many can found with dogs or humans, if you dig, you'll find that polio / chicken pox (etc, many of them) vaccines started illness or you can read that dogs' pavro is man-made, it appeared when massive vaccinations started, before that it was unknown (details on C. Driscoll' website: Canin Health Concern). And I am pretty sure that cats Polykidney disease (PKD) is a kind of accidentaly man-made, too and became inheritable years ago. Cysts are usually the results of poisoning, a kind of autoimmun disease when the body tries to close the poisonous material in a 'bin' to keep it away from the vital organs and blood circulation.
- No matter it was tested on humans, dogs or cats, real-life tests' results showed: always the unvaccinated population is the healthiest if otherwise properly was feed - where clean water and good food was available.
Here comes my / our responsibility: You must know, if we carry on vaccinating our cats like this (especially breeders) soon we won't have any healthy animal around because when a vaccine start and autoimmune disease it becomes inheritable due to injured DNA and more autoimmune diseases means more injured DNAs: cats will be sicker and sicker with every generation.
- Natural Immunity:
Update 2023: While I haven't deleted this part yet, I gain more knowledge on the subject and will re-write it accorindly. The immune system is not what we thought (or was taught) either.
It looks nature has its own way to help our pets to develop immunity, I've just read a very interesting practice like how dog owners 'trained' their dogs to gain immunity against dog distemper - it's an example - how things work or should work without vaccines. They new about an infected racoon colony, members used the nearby lake to drink. Owners took their puppies to that lake every day for just minutes. Tests proved that they developed antibodies against the illness without being sick or being vaccinated. When later racoons disappeared they changed the method like bringing puppies to a park where many dog owners took their dogs to walk. Again, every day but just for minutes. Result was the same. Earlier I read that many cats (non-vaccinated cats) had antibodies agains cat leukemia which means, they met the virus, didn't went sick (owners didn't noticed anything), and their immune-system did the job and they became really protected - while leukemia's shot not just extremly dangerous but promises just around 63% protection which is too close to 50-50 (yes or no).
- Finally: True protection is the good immune-system: quality, proper healthy food and water, healthy and happy life to boost it. But please carry on reading if you think, many proof, access of documentation, interesting cases including our very owns are shared under 'Show More' button.

We were a kind of vaccina 'believers', too, did not think much about it, we felt a kind of 'secured' via them. It started to change 7-9 years ago with these cases:
1. Proof of lobby instead of real health protection: we understood that the very same rabbies' vaccine valid / working for 1 year in Hungary and 3 years here in UK (Novibac: Rabbies). What is the truth? How many years? Works at all? What about its side effects if it overdosed? What's the point to overdose?
2. Little Queen died: around 8 years ago one of our previous kitten suddenly had died at the age of 3 right after having her regular yearly shot. She was known as a healthy cat, was regurlary vet' checked. This time she got a cat-flu leukemia combinate vaccine, went sick right after vaccine basically with symptoms of an agressive leukemia and died within a week. After this our reliable family vet told us, that she had got two similar cases in her practice after leukemia's shot. This was the start of my researches and scepticism. Around that time I even changed a couple of emails with two ladies, experts of the topic for some extra knowledge. (Catherine O'Driscoll who has the Canin Health Concern web site and tries to protect dogs and Dr. Patricia Jordan, a rather famous 'natural-way' vet living in US).
Dr Jordan was the one who wrote me that it takes 4 generation of cats to completely get rid of vaccine's caused damage (like autoimmune diseases which became inherited due to injured DNA of the cat's parents, ancestors.)
In a case of a vaccine we usually accept vet's advice. Years ago I did, too, however I rememered to my childhood and that we got just 1-2 vaccinas and was promised a life-time protection in exchange, according to this I never vaccinated our cats on a yearly basis. But even then it was controversial. One vet suggested to vaccinate the kitten at the age of 6-8 weeks, another told us that it was pointless as there was no developed immune-system meaning vaccines couldn't work (while can cause side effects for nothing) and shoud start it just in the age of 3-6 months closer to 6.
Please LET ME SHOW vets' true knowledge about this topic: CHC - ABOUT VACCINATION
VETS EXPLAINES THAT HOW THEY DID NOT GET APPROPRIATE KNOWLEDGE OF LONG THEM SIDE EFFECT OF VACCINAS: Vets on Vaccines - INADEQUATE EDUCATION
There are more and more studies on internet which prove that our "suspicion" in connection of vaccines generated diseases were true, inc. many legends about persians' inherited diseases... the truth behind this in my opinion is persians were a kind of favorite type cats, expensive ones, because of it they were dragged to vets more often, as vaccinas tend to cause autoimmune diseases when a cat develops one she can pass it to her kittens - disease becomes inherited: Vaccines can save lives BUT are not safe....
- EXAMPLE 1 - KIDNEYS RUINED DUE TO VACCINA:"...FVRCP (cat-flu vaccine): should be given to every cat, but only once or twice. ..... (in my opinion: not even once). This vaccine has a very high protection rate against panleukopenia approaching 100%, however recently a major problem has emerged with the vaccine. The vaccine virus is made by growing virus on feline kidney cells. The problem with this is that small amounts of kidney cells get in the vaccine and can cause not just an immune response to the vaccine but also to the cat’s own kidneys. In other words it can cause the cat’s immune system to fight against and destroy it’s own kidneys. Many of us believe that the overuse of this vaccine has created the epidemic of kidney disease that we see in cats eight year of age and older. And recent studies have shown that cats do develop antibodies against their kidney cells." please click for the source
- EXAMPLE 2 - HEART RUINED DUE TO VACCINE: Connection between HCM (heart disease of persians) and vaccinas: "...I also believe that this explains the occurrence of cardiomyopathy in cats. Perhaps the heart muscle association of the feline parvovirus (panleukopenia virus) was not seen in natural infections, but vaccination brought it to the surface. Cardiomyopathy is an autoimmune disease, and vaccines are major causes of autoimmune disease. In my opinion, these connections are too close to be coincidence alone."
source: http://holisticat.com/en/caveats-and-cautions/12-vaccination.html
- EXAMPLE 3 - LIVER AND OTHER ORGANS RUINED DUE TO VACCINA: "Christopher Day, Honorary Secretary of the British Homoeopathic Veterinary Association, told us that, in his experience, where the start date of a dog's illness is known, a high percentage (around 80%) begin within three months of vaccination.
Canine Health Concern tested this observation and has analyzed the histories of over 3,800 dogs post vaccination. ...Other diseases that were highly represented within three months post vaccination included cancer (35.1%) , chorea (81%), encephalitis (78.6%), heart conditions (39.2%), kidney damage (53.7%), liver damage/failure (61.5%), paralysis of the rear end (69.2%), and pancreas problems (54.2%). " For full article please visit: http://www.canine-health-concern.org.uk/caninevaccinesurvey.html
- EXAMPLE 4 - Link Between Vaccines and Autoimmune Hemolytic Anemia (deadly in 80% of cases) - According to the traditional veterinary community no "statistically significant association" has been proven between vaccines and AIHA, and they are only willing to consider a link if the onset of the disease occurs within four weeks of a vaccination. Now, those of us in the holistic veterinary community absolutely believe there is a direct and prevalent link between vaccines and autoimmune hemolytic anemia. As a holistic vet working in a large traditional vaccine clinic early in my career, I saw a lot of cases of AIHA – one or two a month. However, for the last 11 years since I've been in private practice, I've not seen a single case in my own patients. I believe this is because in my own practice, we titer rather than automatically give traditional adjuvanted vaccines. The cases of AIHA I see now are referred from traditional vet practices that are probably continuing to over-vaccinate.
source: http://healthypets.mercola.com/sites/healthypets/archive/2012/07/30/vaccine-causes-autoimmune-hemolytic-anemia.aspx
- EXAMPLE 5 - "Disorders caused by vaccine side effects in dogs and cats
Transient or chronic seizure disorders may also develop in sensitive pets that have had vaccines. Immune suppression that may last for up to seven days can also occur after vaccination. Some of the chronic disorders suspected of being the result of overvaccination include lupus, pemphigus, rheumatoid arthritis, and autoimmune platelet and red blood cell disorders. Chronic skin and ear allergies, as well as food allergies and inflammatory bowel disease may also be triggered by vaccine reactions. The immune response of dogs with preexisting inhalant allergies (atopy) to pollens has shown to be augmented by vaccination. The autoimmune diseases Hyperthyroidism (cats) and hypothyroidism (dogs) have often demonstrated in humans to be initiated by vaccinations, and this is also suspected in dogs and cats. In susceptible cats, refractory injection site fibrosarcomas (aggressive, malignant cancers) may appear months to years after receiving a feline leukemia or rabies vaccination" source: http://www.1800petmeds.com/education/symptoms-vaccine-side-effects-dog-cat-45.htm


 
OUR VERY FIRST CASE EXPERIENCE aka. History of our vaccination' habit:
UNTIL the end of 2010 our kittens always had the first core vaccines including vaccine agains leukemia, but after this time we completely excluded leukemia's vaccine and never suggested the habit of yearly boosters on vaccines.
2014 summer:
6 of our previous kittens went ill due to bad side effect caused by vaccine, all of them roughly in the same time, 2 days after vaccination. But first side effects like great pain reached them right after the vaccination and was so bad that they cried because of pain, kept an ear or leg paralised, cried out for the tiniest touch on their body and we had to rush back to the clinic at once. And they could tell nothing, could do nothing. They reported the case to the manufacturer based on our report. Almost 3 years passed and we NEVER GOT ANY ANSWER from manufacturer - this is what you can expect in similar case. All of our kittens were 'lucky' as previously they were in a top health condition and it helped to cope with this life-threatening infection, for a week we saw them suffer, had to force-feed them not to lose strenght and able to fight against infection while their mouths were full with shores and ulcers and eating were terribly painful to them. They all recovered fully around a week time and without having secondary bacterial infections like eg.pneumonia - but you must know, if something like this happens, cats and kittens depenends on their own body and your knowledge about appropriate caring as vet won't be able to help on side-effect casued illnesses as we well understood. WE ARE SORRY, WE DO NOT TAKE THIS RISK AGAIN THAT UNTESDED, DANGEROUS VACCINES CAN MAKE HEALTHY KITTENS SICK AND MAY RISK THEIR LIVES.
Good part: WE LEARNT A LOT FORM THIS CASE: 1. Vaccinas can start epidemics: we had 7 similar aged kittens kept in our big living room (shared bowls), when we went for vaccinas they ran out and just 4 were vaccinated. Around after 1-2 days their salvia started to flow like hell, we didn't know / recognise it at once. They infected two other (non-vaccinated) kittens living /drinking /eating with them, and last one showed no sing of illness at all. During this time we had two younger litters upstairs and many adults crossing the living room, ocasionaly even drinking from that water bowl - no one else caught it, not even one. Previously we lived in fear due to vets that cat-flu (corona virus infection) is so very easely infect and it is air-born - we learnt that airborne or not but not so easily causes infection in adults or in other kittens who are not in the same room on shared bowls. This was the point when I asked myself that in how many cases were cat-flu made up like the 'Great Fear' generated with purpose via vets, mainstream media for make people to run and accept vaccines without even thinking twice about it?
Vaccine was: Feligen RCP batch no: 4JS5 END 10/15, it was a live-virus vaccina. In environment cats can meet just a small amount of viruses (to be able to cause illness depends on the amount of viruses what could enter into the body) and cats have some natural protection like protection of skin, etc, on the other hand during a vaccination they do not have the usual protection as vaccinas are injected right into their body. Good point was that we understood from this case that our kittens can cope almost with everything, so please follow the diet and lifestyle we suggest as it is their only real protection.
In the same time we heard about similar cases from Netherlands but other manufacturers' vaccines. One of the breeder lady I knew wrote to me that her cats went sick due to vaccination with cat-flu and she also mentioned a case (another breeders') where she lost all of her kittens due to vaccination. Also my hungarian vet has informed us that recently she experienced increasing sarcoma (cancer) cases on the place where vaccines were given and she suspected that it was adjuvants caused side-effect (change of adjuvants in vaccines).
OUR OTHER OWN EXPREINCES: 1. During these years we never lost an unvaccinated cat due to autoimmun disease 2. We lost two realtively young and previously very healthy cats in 30+ years due to autoimmune diseases (both were vaccinated, both illnesses were very likely vaccine related as similar documented cases were found on internet).
 


CHEMICAL PART:
We definitely try to avoid too much chemicals / drugs and we do not bath our cats or just very rarely. If an accident happens like softer poo which made some dirt on the bottom (because of long fur it can happen) we wash just the bottom but not the whole cat. If you need to wash the whole cat, room temperature should be about 28 Celsius to avoid get cold. But as far as I know it is better not to take them bath, they are not dirty (they are able to perfectly clean theirselves and in this way you do not have to use chemicals) and not smell at all just rarely in which case is the solution is that take the cat outside and after a short time fur will smell like freshly washed and sun-dried linen, love it to bits. :-) Besieds as they have long, thick fur, it dries very slowly or you have to use hair-dryer and they hate it.
 

- MICROCHIP
- Sounds to be a useful thing but in reality lot of cats develop cancer on the place of microchip - do it just if you must.
For the full article please click: "...many people justify the health risks of chipping by saying that adverse reactions to microchips are rare. The risks however, are vastly underestimated as veterinarians and animal shelters are not required to report adverse reactions so only an extremely small number of these cases are reported...."